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#804626
Watch Eurovision? Only when the triumph of a lesbian Gypsy sweeps away the
dross


Germaine Greer
Monday May 21, 2007


Guardian


The Eurovision contest is over, some are hoping, forever. Yet no one but me
in my dotage seems to have registered that something wonderful has
happened, and that Eurovision may never be the same again. It was wonderful
enough that a solid plain girl in glasses won it for Serbia with an
old-fashioned torch-song; that she should have sung it in passionate
earnest as a lover of her own sex is what made this viewer switch off the
iron and start praying that the gods might let her win. When Marija
Serifovic was asked in interviews why the presentation was so subdued, no
high kicks, no pelvic thrusts, she was puzzled by the inappropriateness of
the questions. While all around her were writhing and mugging, she sang
Molitva as her ostracised self.


Now they want to say that the voting was crooked. But Serbia got points
from all but five of the 23 countries entitled to vote; this was not a
matter of voting for one's cabal, or even tactical voting. The quality of
Serbia's offering was certainly recognised by the country's Balkan
neighbours, but it was rewarded also by Austria, Finland, Hungary and
Switzerland, who came through with 12 points each. Usually I don't care who
wins Eurovision; this time I cheered every time Serbia increased its lead.
For once winning was important. When 23-year-old Serifovic walked on to the
glittering stage in her white plimsolls and unbuttoned black Dolce &
Gabbana suit, the ends of her bow-tie hanging loose, kitsch was suddenly
extinguished. When she stood four-square, lifted her head and sang,
shrieking camp was silenced.


Serifovic's big, supple voice, apparently effortlessly produced from her
deep chest, is imbued with a special kind of feeling which comes from one
of the wellsprings of the European song tradition. Marija Serifovic is not
just an out lesbian, she is Romany. If ever a voice deserved to reign over
Eurovision it is the voice of the Gypsy, who is made to live everywhere in
Europe as if it was nowhere.


From the slopes of the Caucasus to the shores of the Atlantic, the Roma
people can be found struggling with poverty and ill-health, unemployed,
often undocumented, threatened with assimilation and the loss of what
little culture they have left - and nowhere more so than in Serbia. Every
Serbian knows that Serifovic is the daughter of the famous Romany singer,
Verica Serifovic. The bookies gave Verica 10/1 against a victory for her
daughter and she bet her life savings, £3,000, all or nothing. Average
wages in Serbia are about £150 per month and only about 20% of Serbia's
200,000 Roma are in work. Verica knew that her daughter's song should have
been a certainty. And so did I, but I would never have trusted the
Eurovision lottery to come up with the right result.


Marija had sung the song, Molitva, or "Prayer", with lyrics by Sasa
Milosevic Mare and music by Vladimir Graic, many times before. Usually she
sang it as a straight torch song, dressed in frilly jackets, shiny skirts,
beads, makeup and frouffed-up hair. That was how she sang it in the
national heats; the jury of experts preferred a different singer and a
different song, but the phone and text votes decided the issue in Molitva's
favour. In the weeks between winning in Serbia and singing in Helsinki,
Molitva was stripped down to be presented as an uncompromisingly lesbian
love-lament. Serifovic has been out since 2004, but until the night of the
Eurovision final she had never performed as a lesbian. In the midst of all
the synthetic shimmy-shimmy-shake, she stood like a schoolboy, and sang her
heart out.


She was every big, clumsy plain girl who has ever yearned for a smile of
encouragement from the school beauty, every loser who has had to look on
while males took for granted an intimacy she could never aspire to. Her
shyness, her anguish, and the fat fake ruby heart pinned to her jacket, all
told the same story of the love that nobody wants to hear about. The chorus
of highly decorative straight women at first ignored her, then comforted
her, and then, singing with her, recognised her as a lover. The half a
heart drawn on the hand of one joined with the half a heart drawn on
Serifovic's hand, to become a whole heart, still bleeding, but
acknowledged. It was simple. It was obvious, too obvious for the BBC's Mark
Savage, who decided in his knee-jerk revulsion that what he was watching
was some kind of "slow-motion, lesbian porn flick". Shame on him. Go,
Marija!
Guardian Unlimited © Guardian News and Media Limited 2007
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By Paki
#804658
Kad Gardijan kaže... :zvizdi:
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By Heavy Metal Lover
#804663
znao sam da ce :paki: prokomentarisati :D

:up: 4 Germaine Greer & Guardian

:down: 4 that asshole Mark Savage
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By Mr.Ja
#804668
:radosnice:
To je moja Engleska... :radosnice:
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By Mr.Ja
#804679
Odleprsaj u unutrasnjost muvo. :prst:
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By Nicodemus
#804682
Originally posted by Mr.Ja
:radosnice:
To je moja Engleska... :radosnice:

Autorka je, btw. iz Australije i je poznata feminiskinja i borac za GLBT prava, jos iz sedamdesetih - citao ja nekad na Gay-Serbia. :tumble:


Ali ima jedna druga stvar - u tekstu se kaze da svako u Srbiji zna da je Serifovicka Romkinja! Ja to ne znam (valjda zato sto nisam u Srbiji). Je li to tacno? Meni je sasvim svejedno.
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By Mr.Ja
#804685
Sitnicaris... :giggle:
Nisam ni ja znao da je Romkinja, kao da to ima ikakve veze...
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By селпередејз
#804686
Uh, pa u parlamentu su se podžapali za koju partiju je Marijina porodica. Radikali su rekli da vole Rome koliko i Srbe i da je Marijin deda član partije :doh: , predstavnik Roma da je Marijina porodica učestvovala u njihovoj izbornoj kampanji.
Ja nisam znao da Marija Šerifović uopšte postoji, bat enivej:
Uans agen praud tu bi Srbijan.
Sviđa mi se tekst, sigurno bolje nego ono o porniću.
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By Vlada T
#804800
Hvala Svevisnjem da konacno procitah neki zanimljiv i smislen tekst na forumu. Sad mogu opet dalje.
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By Vlada T
#804804
Uzgred, ocito da je Greerova majstorica stila, a vrlo duhovita pride.

Jao, ucite se necemu!
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By KiWi
#804859

ne sviđa mi se ton kojim je pisan tekst ... izgleda da sam jedini.
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By KiWi
#804869
Originally posted by VValter
...
Ja nisam znao da Marija Šerifović uopšte postoji, bat enivej:
...

To je tvoj propust .. Ja sam svoj prvi raskid proplakao uz "znaj da znam s kim spavaš ali nebitno je to, važno je da je da znam kog' sanjaš i s kim bi se budio .."
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By Tezej /bez Arijadne/
#804976
Guardian očito ima izvore delfijske (out since 2004?) prirode.

Odličan tekst, vrlo ličan, sa sve delom gde pisac ostavlja peglu na trenutak i navija za Mariju.

A Mark Savage je car! Obožavam britanski dekadentni ciniko-sarkazam. Evroviziju 2005. sam gledao preko BBC-ija i to je bio... prenos radi prenosa.
Kako ih je on sve spuštao... treba shvatiti Engleze i smejati se s njima.
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By deželaš
#805109
Originally posted by Vlada T
Uzgred, ocito da je Greerova majstorica stila, a vrlo duhovita pride.
Jao, ucite se necemu!

duhovita? stila?

tekst je prepatetično njakanje po opštim mestima i uprošćeno, sa dve nedelje zakašnjenja i sa ponegde netačnim informacijama, naprimer:

Marija Serifovic is not just an out lesbian, she is Romany.
samo ova rečenica naprimer... marija se nikada nije definitivno outovala pa je besmisleno pucati na objašnjenje događaja kao njene neznamkakoromantičnointonirane lične pobede.. greerova zvuči kao da se vratila u adolescentske frustracije pa ne testira realnost, bar ne van holivudskih hepi endova:
She was every big, clumsy plain girl who has ever yearned for a smile of
encouragement from the school beauty, every loser who has had to look on
while males took for granted an intimacy she could never aspire to.
i na kraju filma je valjda osvojila simpatije pa su snimili "Vešticu tinejdžerku 2", šta?



Every Serbian knows that Serifovic is the daughter of the famous Romany singer, Verica Serifovic.
:roll:

kontam ja da žena piše pre svega neinformisanim masama, ali to rts-ovsko "Every Serbian knows.."

:drama:
The half a heart drawn on the hand of one joined with the half a heart drawn on Serifovic's hand, to become a whole heart, still bleeding, but
acknowledged. It was simple. It was obvious, too obvious for the BBC's Mark
Savage, who decided in his knee-jerk revulsion that what he was watching
was some kind of "slow-motion, lesbian porn flick". Shame on him. Go,
Marija!
ovo je na nivou prosečnog komentara na youtubeu i tinejdžerskih blogova

PS: ne kažem da mi nije drago što je ovako nešto objavljeno i to u guardianu, ali tretirati ga kao duhovito, stilizovano i još mudro pride ... daaaaaj :zid:
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By Vlada T
#805408
Gresis. Nije poenta u izvucenim pasusima, niti je poenta u cinizmu.
Upravo je to ono sto Greerova istice - Evrovizija, to je jeftin kemp, tetke koje tresu kukovima i na kraju, zlobne tetke koje sve pakosno komentarisu.
Ako je ona u Marijin nastup ucitala zakasnele adolescentske fantazije, tim bolje i za nju i za Mariju. Od ljubavi skrhane lezbejske tinejdzerke i pozicioniranje Roma u evropskim zemljama - hajdem, stavi te teme u jedan tekst i nacini ga smislenim.
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