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By Tungi
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Idem da ližem švajcarsku ambasadu.
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By Timothy
#2713252
E šteta za Novaka :/ Nikako da kompletira sve grend slemove.
A ova gorila brate je nezaustavljiva :D Pa nema te Ruskinje što će da uzvrati udarac....još ova kao šatro bolesna.
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By Oziris
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[url=http://gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2713252#p2713252]Timothy napisao:[/url]
A ova gorila brate je nezaustavljiva :D Pa nema te Ruskinje što će da uzvrati udarac....još ova kao šatro bolesna.
Niti je gorila, niti je bila SATRO bolesna, nego su sve ostale teniserke polusposobne i za milion klasa ispod nje. I dok god se jadnice zakopavaju na osnovnoj liniji i trckaraju kao balerine tamo-amo nemastovito i besomucno vracajuci lopticu u teren, udarajuci forhende i bekhende koji jedva dostizu 60-70 km/h, nadajuci se Sereninoj greski (koja udara skoro kao teniseri po jacini i igra savrsene voleje, ima predobar servis i nema slabosti u igri), nijedna od njih nece biti niti No.1 (osim ukoliko Sereni ne dosadi pa odluci da ode na jedno godinu dana iz tenisa :lol: ), niti neka ozbiljna teniserka.

Evo, recimo, uzmimo na primer Sharapovu. Za svaku pohvalu je sto je naucila da igra drop shot u 27-oj godini zivota. Zaista. Videsmo da ga je, po prvi put u zivotu, obilato koristila na RG, da pokaze da je naucila jos neki udarac u tenisu. Sledece sto ostaje je da iskoristi tu svoju visinu i da nauci da igra smec. Presmesno je gledati nju koja ima 3 m visine kako se pri visokoj loptici povlaci unazad, cekajuci je da padne da bi mogla da udari forhend, ili, ako bas oseca modzo taj dan, povuce se unazad malcice da odigra drajv volej. Smec - to je Bolitijeri bice nije naucio... :zmija:

I treba Serena sve da im uzme. Jer ta zena ume i ima SVE. :)
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By Timothy
#2713375
Pa da...Serena ima građu kakvu nema nijedna teniserka(gorilastu) plus jel iskustvo kad se ukomibnuje stvarno je čini nepobedivom.
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By spliff
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nista gore od pedera rasiste....



oziris objasnila :kiss:
By Ulix
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[url=http://www.gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2713349#p2713349]Oziris napisao:[/url]
[url=http://gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2713252#p2713252]Timothy napisao:[/url]
A ova gorila brate je nezaustavljiva :D Pa nema te Ruskinje što će da uzvrati udarac....još ova kao šatro bolesna.
Niti je gorila, niti je bila SATRO bolesna, nego su sve ostale teniserke polusposobne i za milion klasa ispod nje. I dok god se jadnice zakopavaju na osnovnoj liniji i trckaraju kao balerine tamo-amo nemastovito i besomucno vracajuci lopticu u teren, udarajuci forhende i bekhende koji jedva dostizu 60-70 km/h, nadajuci se Sereninoj greski (koja udara skoro kao teniseri po jacini i igra savrsene voleje, ima predobar servis i nema slabosti u igri), nijedna od njih nece biti niti No.1 (osim ukoliko Sereni ne dosadi pa odluci da ode na jedno godinu dana iz tenisa :lol: ), niti neka ozbiljna teniserka.

Evo, recimo, uzmimo na primer Sharapovu. Za svaku pohvalu je sto je naucila da igra drop shot u 27-oj godini zivota. Zaista. Videsmo da ga je, po prvi put u zivotu, obilato koristila na RG, da pokaze da je naucila jos neki udarac u tenisu. Sledece sto ostaje je da iskoristi tu svoju visinu i da nauci da igra smec. Presmesno je gledati nju koja ima 3 m visine kako se pri visokoj loptici povlaci unazad, cekajuci je da padne da bi mogla da udari forhend, ili, ako bas oseca modzo taj dan, povuce se unazad malcice da odigra drajv volej. Smec - to je Bolitijeri bice nije naucio... :zmija:

I treba Serena sve da im uzme. Jer ta zena ume i ima SVE. :)
:up:

Bravo.

I još jedna stvar koja mene kod Serene oduševljava, to je njena istrajnost. Ona NIKADA ne odustaje. To je prosto fascinantno koliko je neustrašiva i fokusirana. :love:
By Sixto
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[url=http://www.gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2713389#p2713389]Timothy napisao:[/url]Ali građa nema veze sa bojom kože...pročitaj post još koji put.
Pogresno. Mozda ne u ovom slucaju, ali rasna diskriminisanost je upravo razlog zasto npr crnaca ima malo u plivanju, ali ima puno u atletici. Kompozicija misicne mase i udeo odredjenog tipa vlakana je pored individualnih razlika i rasno uslovljena.
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By Oziris
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[url=http://gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2713389#p2713389]Timothy napisao:[/url] građa
Tu tek nema veze sa gorilom. Ako pominjes njenu gradju i zelis da pricas o istoj, onda sam sigurna da se ne razumes mnogo u telesnu kompoziciju i anatomiju, jer Serenina GRADJA i Serenin trenutni izgled nisu ista stvar. Sta vise, usudicu se da kazem da je Serena jedna od bolje GRADJENIH teniserki. Ta ista Serena, ako bi izgubila jedno 10 kg masti, izgledala bi bolje nego vecina teniserki. Njen "core" predobro izgleda, ima skoro pa perfektnu proporciju "rasta", tj. sirenja od struka ka ramenima, divno uradjen latissimus dorsi, izuzetno lepa ramena, nema siroke kukove, ima za svoju visinu duge, prave noge, uskih kolenih zglobova i gleznjeva... To sto ima visak masti za pojam objektivne "zgodnoce" i sto se prosto goji na tzv. "zenski" nacin, dakle najvise u guzi i butinama, vidim da je ne pogadja puno. :) A ni mene. :lol:

P.S. A ako si mislio da kazes da je nezaustavljiva i da jako udara zato sto je "big girl", onda cu ti samo reci da imas i jednu Amanmuradovu koja ima 2 m, Aravane Rezai, Marion Bartoli, Taylor Townsend, sve igracice koje skupa imaju 1 Wimbledon :lol: i sve su i vise i teze od Serene koja ima 175 cm i 70 kg, pa nista spektakularno nisu uradile, niti imaju igru poput Serenine. :kiss:
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By Timothy
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Koliko vidim u mojim postovima ni u jednom momentu nije pomenuta boje kože tako da razloga za diskusiju o rasizmu stvarno nema u temi o Roland Garrosu.
Drugo ovo Oziris me plaši sa količinom detalja...bez brige položio sam anatomiju na faxu ali nisam išao u detalje sa merenjem Sereninih proporcija, ja sam samo casual posmatrač koji kao i većina stiče utisak da je Serena nabijena tj gorilasto građena.
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By Oziris
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[url=http://gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2713466#p2713466]Timothy napisao:[/url]
Drugo ovo Oziris me plaši sa količinom detalja...
Be afraid... Be very afraid. :smeh:

@ Sixto: Tako stoji u zvanicnoj statistici... Vrlo je moguce da nije tacno, jer videh Djoku uzivo i po meni, poprilicno je mrsav, a njemu stoji 188 cm / 80 kg... E ako Novak ima 80 kg, onda je moguce i da Serena ima 70 kg i da Sharapova ima 59 kg. :lol:
By Sixto
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Serena bez 85kila nema sanse...
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By nsc
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To su podaci dati na pocetku karijere i niko ih ne menja
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By spliff
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[url=http://www.gay-serbia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2713466#p2713466]Timothy napisao:[/url]Koliko vidim u mojim postovima ni u jednom momentu nije pomenuta boje kože tako da razloga za diskusiju o rasizmu stvarno nema u temi o Roland Garrosu.
Drugo ovo Oziris me plaši sa količinom detalja...bez brige položio sam anatomiju na faxu ali nisam išao u detalje sa merenjem Sereninih proporcija, ja sam samo casual posmatrač koji kao i većina stiče utisak da je Serena nabijena tj gorilasto građena.
When We Attack Serena Williams' Body, It's Really About Her Blackness

A New York Times article about body image in competitive tennis became the catalyst for a debate this week about the harmful ways in which the media discusses Serena Williams' body. But just so we're clear, this isn't just about how Williams' muscular physique sets her apart from her white counterparts. It's about the way black women -- world-class athletes or otherwise -- find themselves continuously othered and compared to white women, no matter what they do or how they look.

Williams has been breaking records (and barriers) in the tennis world since she first entered it as a teen, winning her 21st Grand Slam on Saturday. And yet, despite her athletic prowess, she has been the target of racist and sexist attacks for the better part of a decade. Over the years, Williams has been described by online commenters and journalists alike as a "gorilla," as "manly" and as "savage."

The disrespect hurled at Williams, much of it focused on her body, has been rampant -- even among her peers. In 2012, tennis player Caroline Wozniacki stuffed her bra and shorts to imitate Williams during an exhibition match against Maria Sharapova. The crowd and commentators at the match laughed, while outlets like Yahoo! Sports described the incident as "hilarious." (Andy Roddick and Novak Djokovic have also imitated Williams' physique in the past.)

On the surface, it may look like playful athletic ribbing, but these kind of incidents, coupled with the language so often used to describe Serena as an athlete, speak to a kind of dehumanization specific to black women. As Ms. Magazine writer Corinne Gaston puts it, the policing of Williams' body "comes gift-wrapped in a triad from hell: misogyny, racism and transphobia."

So while it's certainly important, it's not enough to point out that Serena isn't in fact "built like a man," using photos of her in shapely, curve-hugging dresses to illustrate the point. This isn't about the fact that Williams isn't tall, slim and a size two. It's about the fact that she isn't white. We can certainly have a conversation about how the sports world expects physically powerful women to look like dainty supermodels, but the fact remains that muscular tennis stars like Martina Navratilova, Justine Henin, Victoria Azarenka, and Samantha Tosur aren't subject to the same disdain and body-focused critiques that Williams is.

Rather than focusing on the body dysmorphic beauty standards of tennis, and the inherent sexism that drives it -- a piece I'd love to read -- the New York Times instead focused on the otherness of Serena Williams' body. Female tennis players were asked to discuss their own bodies in contrast to Williams', as if she were the epitome of everything they strive not to be: muscular, yes, but also black.

Williams is simultaneously sexualized and caricaturized, othered and exoticized. Her body is a representation of her athletic skill. But rather than being celebrated, it's been scrutinized mercilessly, turned into a kind of spectacle for white amusement, with painful parallels to Saartjie "Sarah" Baartman.

The intersection of sexism and racism is something black women grapple with on a daily basis.

This goes beyond Williams' body. Not only is her womanhood consistently denied, her character is deemed as dominant, aggressive and arrogant. Everything from her hairstyles to her celebratory dances have been regarded as "ghetto" or uncouth. No matter her success, her intelligence or her graciousness, her humanity is consistently denied.

The racism inherent in the way people talk about Serena Williams' body is an important conversation to be had, but hopefully this will give way to a larger conversation about the broader racism that she faces as a black woman. Williams has beaten Maria Sharapova 17 times in a row, spanning over a decade. She still makes half of what Sharapova makes off the court.

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